Many know about the famous dialog between Tulasi Devi and Sankhacuda, where she firmly rejects him. In this part of the dialog, many negative feminine qualities are stated, and therefore this part is usually popular amongst Brahmacharis. However, not everyone knows how the dialog ends.

The story is that Sankhacuda approached Tulasi with the purpose of marrying her. Tulasi was actually waiting for Sankhacuda and she had already decided to marry him. It’s described that Tulasi blushed and hid her face with her veil, secretly smiling at him.

The advances of Sankhacuda where thus not undesired as it may seem when on reads just the first part of the dialog. However, as an intelligent lady, she first wanted to test her future husband. The story goes like this:

“Tulasi was adorned with lovely jingling ornaments, and the knot of hair at the back of her head was decorated with a jasmine wreath. Shark-shaped earrings adorned her cheeks while a diamond necklace beautified her breast. She wore gorgeous bangles of conch on her arms and wrists, as well as precious jewels on her fingers.
Sankhacuda sat down and said to her, “O beautiful girl, whose daughter are you? And how have you come to this forest? You look most fortunate and blessed. Indeed, you are the personification of heavenly joy–the best of women! You are a model of loveliness and can certainly bewilder even the saints!”
When Tulasi gave no reply, he asked, “O gracious one, why don’t you speak? I am your servant, so please greet me with the melody of your speech.”
Her head lowered, her face smiling, the beautiful-eyed Tulasi said, “I am the daughter of King Dharmadhvaja and have been practicing asceticism here. But who are you? And why are you talking to me? If a noble man sees a virtuous woman alone, he does not talk to her. So go away–wherever you please.”
But Sankhacuda did not move.”

Here we come to the punchline:

“Tulasi continued. “The shastras say that only a degraded man desires a woman. At first a woman is sweet to a man, but later proves fatal. Though her mouth rains honey, her heart is like a jar of poison. She uses sweet words but her heart is sharp like a razor. To achieve her own selfish ends she is submissive to her husband; otherwise, she is unsubmissive. While her face looks cheerful, her heart is dirty. Even the Vedas and the Puranas cannot fathom her character. A wise man never trusts a base woman. She has no friend or enemy; for all she wants are new lovers. When a woman sees a well-dressed man, she inwardly desires him, but outwardly she appears chaste and modest. She is naturally passionate, attracts men’s minds, and eagerly engages in sex. Though outwardly she hides her lust and appears modest, when she meets her lover in secret, she is ready to swallow him up. When she does not have sex with him, she feels offended, her body burns with anger, and she begins to quarrel. When her passions are fully satisfied, she becomes cheerful; when unsatisfied, morose.
“A woman likes a good lover more than sweet foods or refreshing drinks; she likes him even more than her own son; he is dearer to her than her life. But if the lover becomes impotent or aged, she regards him as an enemy. Quarrels and anger ensue. Then she devours him as a snake eats a rat. She is rashness personified and a mine of vices. A woman is hypocritical, obstinate and unfaithful. Even Lord Brahma and other gods are deluded by her. She is a hindrance on the path of austerity, an obstacle to liberation, an impediment to developing faith in Lord Hari, a refuge of all delusion and a living chain that binds men to the world. She is like a magician and is as false as dreams. She appears to be very beautiful, but is she is a bucket of stool, urine, gas and blood. When God created her, he arranged that she should become the spirit of delusion to the deluded and poison to those who desire liberation. Thus, on no account should a woman be desired, and by all means she should be avoided.”

So, this is the part that is famous. Intelligently, Tulasi tests the inteligence of her future husband, by questioning why he was interested on her, and describing many negative qualities. This description is indeed not wrong, women can really show all these bad qualities, but it is of course intentionally one-sided.

Men become easily attracted to women, but most of the time this attraction is just superficial, based in the appearance. The man just become atracted to the beauty of the lady and loses his inteligence. He them approaches her without any clear idea of what a serious relationship entails. This is thus an important instruction to all inteligent ladies, who should first test the inteligence of the prospective husband before accepting him.

Posed with this challenge, Sankhacuda answered in an also very significative way:

“Sankacuda smiled and then answered, “O goddess, what you have said is not completely false. It is partly true and partly false. From the Creator have come chaste and unchaste women. One is praiseworthy, the other isn’t. Examples of chaste women are Laksmi, Sarasvati, Durga, Savitri and Radha. Women who are expansions of them are auspicious, glorious and very commendable, such as Satarupa, Devahuti, Svadha, Savaha, Daksina, Anasuya, Ganga, Diti, Aditi, Vedavati, etc. In every yuga cycle these women are excellent. The heavenly prostitutes are also expansions and partial expansions of the above women, but they are not praiseworthy because they are unchaste.
Women who are in the mode of goodness are virtuous and pure. The sages declare them to be excellent. But those who are in the modes of passion and ignorance are not so praiseworthy. The passionate ones are fond of sense pleasures, indulge in them, and always want to fulfil their selfish goals. Such women are usually insincere, deluded and irreligious. Generally, they are unchaste. But woman in the mode of ignorance are considered the worst. They are irresistible.”

Here, Sankhacuda reveals a piece of information that is important for every men to understand. Often men discuss if ladies are good or bad, but the fact is that there are different types of women and one’s mileage will vary according to what type he gets involved with.

Ladies in the mode of goodness are capable of evoking the best in their husbands due to their good qualities. As wives they are loving, caring, supportive, and at the same time shy and modest. These qualities nourish the mode of goodness in the man, which stimulates him to be sensitive, protective, calm, and self-situated. Shyness and modesty make a lady look very attractive, but this is the type of beauty that satisfy the mind without bringing forth uncontrolled sex drive. In this way, the lady can serve as an inspiration for the man, encouraging him to perform both his material and spiritual duties, but at the same time help him to control his senses (this system is described by Srila Prabhupada on ŚB 3.23.2). This is a type of marriage that is considered beneficial for a man. Unfortunately it is becoming rare nowadays, as both men and women fall in qualification due to the influence of Kali-Yuga. Nowadays a man can get such a wife usually only through extraordinarily good fortune, or after practicing serious austerities.

Ladies in the mode of passion are more attracted to material enjoyment. They dress and behave in sensuous ways and are always hankering for different things. They see men more as objects for the satisfaction of their desires. This type of lady stimulates the mode of passion in the man, wich makes him more inclined to sexual life and material enjoyment, creating a situation that is hardly favorable for spiritual advancement. Foolish men are of course very found of this type of women, but a man who is serious about spiritual life will have serious problems in this type of marriage, since it will be very dificult to conduct his family life in a way that is not contrary to his spiritual practice. At the same time, if he fails to provide the level of material comfort the wife desires, she becomes prone to leave him, creating further problems. This is the type of marriage that is described in a negative way in the scriptures.

Finally, there are ladies in the mode of ignorance, who are unfortunately becoming more common nowadays. They are harsh, intolerant, unclean, restless, and bad-behaved. These qualities stimulate the mode of ignorance in the man, leading to quarrels, destructive behavior, and aggression. This is of course the worst type of marriage.

We can notice however that Sankacuda describe this type of woman as “irresistible”, although he also describe them as being “the worst”. The point is that a woman who is at the same time beautiful and emotionally unstable is the one who is capable of more seriously captivating a man, who becomes addicted to the ups and downs of such a relationship. The fact is that our minds are attracted to strong emotions, either positive and negative. This type of women provide both extremes, and thus they captivate men in ways that women in passion or goodness are not capable of. However, this is a very negative type of attraction that makes a man completely lose his intelligence and fall down deep into ignorance, with disastrous results. Such qualities should thus serve as a gigantic red light for any sane man.

Tulasi Devi describes men who lose their intelligence due to involvement with the wrong type of women later in her dialog:

“A man who is conquered by a woman is very impure and condemned by people in general. The forefathers and the demigods regard men who are conquered by women as low and contemptible. Even their fathers and mothers mentally despise them. The Vedas say that when a child is born or a relative dies, the brahmanas are purified in ten days; the ksatriyas in twelve days; the vaisyas in fifteen days; and the sudras as well as other low classes in twenty-one days. But a man conquered by a woman always remains impure. Only when his body is burned to ashes does he become purified. Neither the ancestors nor the demigods accept from him offerings of cakes, flowers, etc. Men whose hearts are totally conquered by women acquire no fruits from their knowledge, austerities, japa, fire sacrifices, worship, learning or fame.”

She also gives practical advice to the ladies as how a good husband should be selected:

“One should choose one’s husband by examining a man’s merits and defects. If one gives his daughter in marriage to a man devoid of all good qualifications, to an old man, to a man who is ignorant or poor, illiterate, diseased, ugly, wrathful, harsh, lame, limbless, deaf, dumb, inactive, or impotent–this sin is equivalent to the sin of murdering a brahmana. But if one gives his daughter in marriage to a young Vaisnava who is learned, well-qualified and peaceful, one acquires the fruits of performing ten horse sacrifices.”

Thus, according to the advice of Tulasi Devi, the husband should be a young Vaisnava, who is learned, well-qualified and peaceful. Men who are devoid of good qualifications, who are ignorant, poor and illiterate, as well as men who are diseased, very ugly, wrathful, harsh, dumb or inactive should be avoided.

We can see that, more than just a bashing for Brahmacaris, this dialog of Tulasi Devi and Sankhacuda offers practical advice for all intelligent boys and girls who are considering entering into family life.